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in some dressup games, people say you should not choose a black skin if you are not black? i do not understand why... sometimes i love to use black skins and dress up nicely and all, and people say it is wrong and sometimes even racist... :/ why tho? like what makes it so wrong?
if it is really wrong i would stop using them but for now i do not see anything wrong with it
if it is really wrong i would stop using them but for now i do not see anything wrong with it
Lemona wrote:
im trying to not be oblivious or ignorant btw, this is honestly the first ive heard of this
in some dressup games, people say you should not choose a black skin if you are not black? i do not understand why... sometimes i love to use black skins and dress up nicely and all, and people say it is wrong and sometimes even racist... :/ why tho? like what makes it so wrong?idk honestly, i have done outfits in all different skin colors and i just think of it like making character designs i guess? i like making ocs and drawing them and coming up with stories/personalities for them and in my mind its the same when making outfits in games. the characters i dress up arent supposed to represent me (unless i specifically state so) maybe it would be helpful if people did that if they also stated theyre white/black/ect? shrug idk
if it is really wrong i would stop using them but for now i do not see anything wrong with it
im trying to not be oblivious or ignorant btw, this is honestly the first ive heard of this
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torrenoia wrote:
Lemona wrote:in some dressup games, people say you should not choose a black skin if you are not black? i do not understand why... sometimes i love to use black skins and dress up nicely and all, and people say it is wrong and sometimes even racist... :/ why tho? like what makes it so wrong?idk honestly, i have done outfits in all different skin colors and i just think of it like making character designs i guess? i like making ocs and drawing them and coming up with stories/personalities for them and in my mind its the same when making outfits in games. the characters i dress up arent supposed to represent me (unless i specifically state so) maybe it would be helpful if people did that if they also stated theyre white/black/ect? shrug idk
if it is really wrong i would stop using them but for now i do not see anything wrong with it
im trying to not be oblivious or ignorant btw, this is honestly the first ive heard of this
I've also heard this criticism/guidance about cross-racial game play. My understanding is that there's a few things going on, at least in countries that are majority people of European descent with a history of colonization or enslaving Africans and people of African or Indigenous ancestry. One is cultural appropriation, playing with Blackness or with dark skin divorced from the power dynamics and daily racism that people of color face both individually and in terms of entire colonized cultures, and one is blackface--in this case digital blackface. It comes down to using the bodies, the likenesses, the images of people of color and especially Black people for fun, without either understanding the nuance of the experience of racism or the nuances of what might be racist in your representation of the character. And also--white folks/people of European descent appropriating elements of Black culture or other POC cultures, to make money and get attention or likes or whatever, that's a huge problem that's been going on for decades and centuries, and keeps shutting people of color out of those opportunities for respect and money and a platform. Here, it's gonna be, like, outfit fights, outfit contests, overall popularity, right? And like it's a little more complicated when it's character design, since white creators NOT creating characters of color is a problem, but like a bigger problem is white comics/animation/etc creators not hiring people of color in the writers rooms and voice cast. So it's complicated, like most things that are about racism. But here, here's some extra context:
An article about digital blackface--
and an article about digital blackface on tiktok--
An article from a show called Code Switch which is a really good radio show about all issues race and racism in the US:
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queerla knocked that out of the park to the point i don't have much to add myself, except for anecdotal vouching. i think most people tend to agree that making character designs, art, fashion avatars etc a different race than you isnt inherently a bad thing, and often is very good, granted that due diligence is paid to ensuring youre not perpetuating stereotypes, and that you aren't using those avatars or characters to obsfucate your own race. truth be told, i never fully grasped how widespread of an issue it was until i saw exactly how often artists on twitter were using icons of their black characters, drawing themselves darker than they actually are, and even literally using dark-skinned emojis to very deliberately distract from the fact they were white
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^ This was very informative and made me think! Thank you
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i've read the articles Queeria provided and all of them tell great knowledge, but the third one is especially disturbing (the content is, otherwise the article is amazing and informative).
what i think is, when people do digital blackface and experience racism with the channel of their character, they will be able to easily shake it off, because the racism and all the discrimination is only essentially to their character, and not themselves. which is going to desensitize them sooner or later, and they will never understand how dangerous and harsh racism is, because there is no direct attack on them.
i understand this part perfectly!
and from my situation, the games i play lets you choose a wide variety of "skins" (they all have different faces etc so not only skin, but whole body) and you can choose it how you want and change at any moment. is it wrong for me to use darker skins too? ( please note i am not presenting myself as a black person, i am just dressing up a black skin)
here are the examples of my dressups:
(i also use lots of dark skins but i couldnt find other outfits)
and tbh, i feel like i always open up controversial topics etc haha.
i've read the articles Queeria provided and all of them tell great knowledge, but the third one is especially disturbing (the content is, otherwise the article is amazing and informative).
what i think is, when people do digital blackface and experience racism with the channel of their character, they will be able to easily shake it off, because the racism and all the discrimination is only essentially to their character, and not themselves. which is going to desensitize them sooner or later, and they will never understand how dangerous and harsh racism is, because there is no direct attack on them.
i understand this part perfectly!
and from my situation, the games i play lets you choose a wide variety of "skins" (they all have different faces etc so not only skin, but whole body) and you can choose it how you want and change at any moment. is it wrong for me to use darker skins too? ( please note i am not presenting myself as a black person, i am just dressing up a black skin)
here are the examples of my dressups:
(i also use lots of dark skins but i couldnt find other outfits)and tbh, i feel like i always open up controversial topics etc haha.
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